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It's killing construction. If you work for a mom and pop, it's next to impossible for them to keep up with all the new rules, much less comply with them all. Different rules for every city, county, etc. It's nuts.
posted by Cass(350) 7 months and 16 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
It's really hard to tell if illegal immigrants have an overall positive or negative effect on our economy. We don't even technically know how many of them live here. But I do think that it's telling if companies are relocating outside of the US because our laws on the issue are too confusing.
posted by southboca(700) 7 months and 16 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
It's kind of like legalizing gay marriage...You don't know whether the overall effect is negative or positive until you do it. States have done analisis til they are blue in the face and the answer is still the same. Nobody knows.
posted by Thor(350) 7 months and 15 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
As a whole, I think that antiimmigration legislation is going to end up hurting our country's economy. The more barriers you put up for businesses, the more this seems to happen.
posted by Kat(650) 7 months and 15 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
Too many times the government makes laws without examining the full consequences. For example, taking away driver's licenses froom undocumented workers seems like a good idea on paper. Without a license, it's harder to make a living. However, that didn't make them go home, it just left many of them driving without licenses or car insurance. Which makes rates go up for legal residents. While at the same time making it harder for the government to keep track of where people are living.
posted by corinthians(250) 7 months and 15 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
I'm not sure why we think it will help the economy if we get rid of illegal workers and are left with jobs unfilled or companies upping the wages for those jobs 20-40% to get them filled.
posted by Bella(350) 7 months and 15 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
llegal immigrants both hurt and help our country. Illegal immigration legislation only seems to be hurting us. Sometimes you have to pick the lesser of the two evils.
posted by Peter(350) 7 months and 14 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
In response to Peter:Yeah, but we have no idea which is which, so what's you point?
posted by Cass(350) 7 months and 13 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
And who can forget the proposed federal legislation from a couple of years back? The bill would have made it a federal crime to offer services or assistance to illegal immigrants. Offenders, who would most likely have included priests, nurses and social workers, would have faced up to five years in prison.
posted by Bella(350) 7 months and 13 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
For sure. But so are illegal immigrants and we have to do something.
posted by mike(100) 7 months and 12 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
In response to mike:Something is not always better than nothing.
posted by Bella(350) 7 months and 12 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
In response to mike:Doing something isn't always better than doing nothing. Don't confuse motion with progress.
posted by Thor(350) 7 months and 10 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
Here is just part of the problem...Pretend you are a company that operates nationally. Arizona requires employers to use the E-Verify system to make sure a new employee's social security number matches a federal database, but Illinois prohibits employers from enrolling in the program until the system becomes more reliable. Multiply that by cities/counties across the US and you start to see the scope of the problem.
posted by Cass(350) 7 months and 9 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
It's killing homebuilders, too. Most of them are small businesses that work in more than one jurisdiction, according to Jerry Howard, CEO of the National Association of Home Builders and just about everyone else in the business. Their job is to build homes, not struggle to keep on top of mounting immigration legislation. The sad thing is that many already are struggling due to the housing industry's slump, the new immigration rules may help put the final nail in the coffin.
posted by Cass(350) 7 months and 9 days ago
Aspiring Patriot
The other bad news is that the Department of Homeland Security wants to start enforcing the 90 day resolution of discrepancies. If your social security number comes up as not matching the federal governments. The federal government and the company and you have 90 days to hammer things out. If they can't you're out of a job. Sounds fine, until you realize this is the federal government we are talking about. I don't think anything there gets done in 90 days.
posted by Cass(350) 7 months and 9 days ago
Aspiring Patriot

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